I'm not going to claim to have any clear idea what the real numbers are but, based on my experience as a US Army officer, given the fact that the Russians have employed heavy standoff weapons so extensively and methodically (drones, tube and rocket artillery, air, missile) Ukraine will have taken a multiple of Russia's casualties, possibly a remarkably high multiple, in the same way you invariably dig a much bigger hole faster employing a heavy excavator rather than a hand shovel. In the case of combat you also do so much more safely. As the popular saying goes, Ukraine brought a knife to a gunfight; egged on by cloistered, clueless imbeciles in DC.
Also, in case anyone is still unaware those in Kiev, DC and many among their lapdog media constantly act to manipulate and deceive. Believing anything they say is foolhardy. In my estimation many of them suffer from more than simple stupidity, I suspect they are in fact mentally unwell (pathological liars, pathological narcissists, sociopaths, psychopaths, etc.) hence beyond incompetent.
Attkisson does a lot of good work, which is of course rare in today's media, so credit to her but it seems she lacks the little bit of experience needed to identify this nonsense casualty narrative, spread by the usual deceitful entities, for what it is. And apparently she didn't ask any of the great many former combat arms specialty soldiers who could have offered sound input for her article.
retired colonel Douglas McGreggor echoes your sentiments placing the ration at UKE:RSA at 10:1. He's stated this figure a few times now in recent appearances on andrew napolitano's judging freedom podcast.
he estimates its likely 1,000,000 UKE casualties and approx 100k Russian casualties.
he's also acknowledged the Russian's ability to outproduce nato is artillery shells + their gained experience in modern warfare in the drone era along with electronic counter measures + techniques to evade counter measures...
all in this looks like a BIG LOSS for NATO.
the argument russia cannot recruit soldiers and is relying on N Korean fighters was easily dismissed by McGreggor. it seems more of a negotiation play by Kim Jong Un to get his soldiers combat experience than anything else.
I wouldn't be too surprised if reality is 10:1 given Russia's air dominance, although that is getting up there. And there is no reason to believe Russia would incorporate N Korean units in their operations, in fact the notion seems ludicrous (more media disinformation most likely). Yes, perhaps a small number of observers, at N Korea's request, so they could gain experience.
I agree. There is no way Russia has more deaths. Ukraine's army now is made up almost entirely of kids and old men. That says almost all of the soldier aged men in Ukrine died (some may have run away). How many 18-30 year old men did Ukraine have before the war? 70-90+% of that number is probably a good estimate.
Indeed legacy corporate media has turned itself into little more than deceitful politicized trash, as most people who pay any attention have come to understand. They are pathetic.
Probably zero or close to it. Some may not be aware many Russian soldiers, from Eastern Russia, are east Asian. And again...Kiev, DC and corporate media lie constantly.
Anyone suggesting that Trump, who is not supporting further military funding of this war, is doing the wrong thing, should be evaluated for a mental illness. Diplomacy is the ONLY solution going forward. How many more lives must be lost before the world finally wakes up and decides that war is evil and never a civilized solution. The killing of innocent people is unacceptable, period..........
Is war always evil? Was it wrong to liberate American slaves? Was it wrong to liberate the Nazi concentration camps? It took war to do accomplish those goals.
I would guess the Ukrainian deaths much higher. The number of deaths and cemetery activity in Ukraine was high.
But the lack of discipline in body retrevieval on the Ukrainian side would indicate losses much more. Zelenskyy habing a soul would have sued for peace long ago. But the EU wanted lots more dead Ukrainian and Russian forces. Zelenskyy said yes to the devils of London Paris Berlin and Washington D.C.
May God not have mercy on any of the leaders of EU and USA who continued the horror.
Thanks for compiling this. I've started to look at the numbers several times since this started and came across wildly differing numbers, so I gave up. Whatever the real numbers are, there are too many lost lives for nothing.
500,000 combat deaths on each side, 1M total. Perhaps more Russians (as they’ve been on the offensive) than Ukrainians. Vietnam isn’t the best comparison, WWI is. How many combat deaths on the Western Front in the first three years (so not including the Somme or Verdun)? (Hint: 1.6 million). So a half million give or take a hundred thousand is a far more reasonable estimate than those in your article.
This article must be a parody. Really, 40,000 Ukraine soldiers dead and 800,000 Russians??? Comical propaganda nobody believes. Nice try though. Every legitimate military source says there are 10 Ukrainians killed to each 1 Russian killed. Be serious.
I appear to be in a minority: a three-time Trump voter who still believes that Ukraine is entitled to sovereignty and territorial integrity, and that a neighboring country cannot just invade, murder tens of thousands of people, and annex part of its territory.
I would urge you to read Simplicius the Thinker's Substack for a good analysis of this. He does very good work and has some excellent sources. He regularly gets cited by some reputable people so that is also a good sign of his reliability. https://simplicius76.substack.com/
So much propaganda on both sides about it. While I favor reaching a peace agreement as soon as possible and see this as a foolish proxy war between the US and Russia, I have to scratch my head at people like Col. MacGregor who estimates 10-15k Russian deaths while lavishing Putin with praise. I wonder what his deal is..
I'm not going to claim to have any clear idea what the real numbers are but, based on my experience as a US Army officer, given the fact that the Russians have employed heavy standoff weapons so extensively and methodically (drones, tube and rocket artillery, air, missile) Ukraine will have taken a multiple of Russia's casualties, possibly a remarkably high multiple, in the same way you invariably dig a much bigger hole faster employing a heavy excavator rather than a hand shovel. In the case of combat you also do so much more safely. As the popular saying goes, Ukraine brought a knife to a gunfight; egged on by cloistered, clueless imbeciles in DC.
Also, in case anyone is still unaware those in Kiev, DC and many among their lapdog media constantly act to manipulate and deceive. Believing anything they say is foolhardy. In my estimation many of them suffer from more than simple stupidity, I suspect they are in fact mentally unwell (pathological liars, pathological narcissists, sociopaths, psychopaths, etc.) hence beyond incompetent.
Agreed. The numbers in this article seem reversed. Russia has high multiple losses compared to Ukraine? I don't think so. It's the other way around.
Attkisson does a lot of good work, which is of course rare in today's media, so credit to her but it seems she lacks the little bit of experience needed to identify this nonsense casualty narrative, spread by the usual deceitful entities, for what it is. And apparently she didn't ask any of the great many former combat arms specialty soldiers who could have offered sound input for her article.
retired colonel Douglas McGreggor echoes your sentiments placing the ration at UKE:RSA at 10:1. He's stated this figure a few times now in recent appearances on andrew napolitano's judging freedom podcast.
he estimates its likely 1,000,000 UKE casualties and approx 100k Russian casualties.
he's also acknowledged the Russian's ability to outproduce nato is artillery shells + their gained experience in modern warfare in the drone era along with electronic counter measures + techniques to evade counter measures...
all in this looks like a BIG LOSS for NATO.
the argument russia cannot recruit soldiers and is relying on N Korean fighters was easily dismissed by McGreggor. it seems more of a negotiation play by Kim Jong Un to get his soldiers combat experience than anything else.
I wouldn't be too surprised if reality is 10:1 given Russia's air dominance, although that is getting up there. And there is no reason to believe Russia would incorporate N Korean units in their operations, in fact the notion seems ludicrous (more media disinformation most likely). Yes, perhaps a small number of observers, at N Korea's request, so they could gain experience.
I agree. There is no way Russia has more deaths. Ukraine's army now is made up almost entirely of kids and old men. That says almost all of the soldier aged men in Ukrine died (some may have run away). How many 18-30 year old men did Ukraine have before the war? 70-90+% of that number is probably a good estimate.
Well said. Agreed. I don't buy any of these figures as they all come from the West. BBC lie? cough cough.
Indeed legacy corporate media has turned itself into little more than deceitful politicized trash, as most people who pay any attention have come to understand. They are pathetic.
🫡 how many North Korean and Chinese paid ‘soldiers’ are dead? 🫡
Probably zero or close to it. Some may not be aware many Russian soldiers, from Eastern Russia, are east Asian. And again...Kiev, DC and corporate media lie constantly.
Funny, still not a single confirmation of any DPRK troops to be seen 🤷♂️
Dian Yuzhang might disagree with you
Peng Chenliang too but one can never tell nowadays
Anyone suggesting that Trump, who is not supporting further military funding of this war, is doing the wrong thing, should be evaluated for a mental illness. Diplomacy is the ONLY solution going forward. How many more lives must be lost before the world finally wakes up and decides that war is evil and never a civilized solution. The killing of innocent people is unacceptable, period..........
Is war always evil? Was it wrong to liberate American slaves? Was it wrong to liberate the Nazi concentration camps? It took war to do accomplish those goals.
Was it wrong for Russia to invade and put an end to the killing of Eastern, Russian-ide ntifying Ukrainians in the break-away oblasts?
If so, then other countries should invade Russia to end its suppression of its own minorities. See how that works?
Does that also apply to suppressed US minorities? 🧐
Ever hear of First Nations, eh?
Enough - blocked
Good luck with that, don't come looking to Canada for any donated weaponry 🤷♂️
LOL
The first casualty of any war is truth, and the first thing they always lie about is casualties.
Soldiers not reported as KIA are still drawing paychecks, and that money is going to someone, a form of graft that is sickening.
I would guess the Ukrainian deaths much higher. The number of deaths and cemetery activity in Ukraine was high.
But the lack of discipline in body retrevieval on the Ukrainian side would indicate losses much more. Zelenskyy habing a soul would have sued for peace long ago. But the EU wanted lots more dead Ukrainian and Russian forces. Zelenskyy said yes to the devils of London Paris Berlin and Washington D.C.
May God not have mercy on any of the leaders of EU and USA who continued the horror.
Thanks for compiling this. I've started to look at the numbers several times since this started and came across wildly differing numbers, so I gave up. Whatever the real numbers are, there are too many lost lives for nothing.
500,000 combat deaths on each side, 1M total. Perhaps more Russians (as they’ve been on the offensive) than Ukrainians. Vietnam isn’t the best comparison, WWI is. How many combat deaths on the Western Front in the first three years (so not including the Somme or Verdun)? (Hint: 1.6 million). So a half million give or take a hundred thousand is a far more reasonable estimate than those in your article.
Woundings typically outnumber deaths 3 to 1, so you claim 4 million now? Unlikely.
Thank you for your awesome efforts
outstanding article once again
This article must be a parody. Really, 40,000 Ukraine soldiers dead and 800,000 Russians??? Comical propaganda nobody believes. Nice try though. Every legitimate military source says there are 10 Ukrainians killed to each 1 Russian killed. Be serious.
Way too many. & not a Kagan or Nuland or van der Leyen among them.
I appear to be in a minority: a three-time Trump voter who still believes that Ukraine is entitled to sovereignty and territorial integrity, and that a neighboring country cannot just invade, murder tens of thousands of people, and annex part of its territory.
If Ukraine is winning as far as casualties and wounded, why are they drafting, kidnapping men & boys as low as age 18.
I would urge you to read Simplicius the Thinker's Substack for a good analysis of this. He does very good work and has some excellent sources. He regularly gets cited by some reputable people so that is also a good sign of his reliability. https://simplicius76.substack.com/
Isn't the war grinding into its fourth year? Didn't it start in Feb 2022?
So much propaganda on both sides about it. While I favor reaching a peace agreement as soon as possible and see this as a foolish proxy war between the US and Russia, I have to scratch my head at people like Col. MacGregor who estimates 10-15k Russian deaths while lavishing Putin with praise. I wonder what his deal is..
MacGregor claims at least 100K Russian deaths
Read history.