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Al Gonzalez's avatar

It is truly amazing the hate that spews from Hamas and yet the world continues to ignore their stated goal of genocide against all jews on a global basis. I used to wonder how the world stood by and did nothing during WWII and now I am witnessing it in the present day. This is so depressing.

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Dan Dagovitz's avatar

Some of us, Jews and Christians are fighting back against it... Together!

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Bardo Ashton's avatar

Hamas is an Israeli creation. Just saying.

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Bob Marsh's avatar

Exactly

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Ohio Barbarian's avatar

Of course you don't mention the fact that Israel funded Hamas for years. Netanyahu WANTED an Islamist group in power in Gaza, and wanted them to do something like October 7 to give Israel an excuse to launch its Final Solution to the Palestinian Problem.

And then, when American taxpayers like myself object because we don't like seeing children systematically exterminated on our dime, we're accused of wanting to kill all Jews. It's both absurd and infuriating.

The State of Israel is an abomination which must be destroyed, not coddled and financed.

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Carl Gottlieb's avatar

Islam has been hell bent on destroying every religion with its goal a worldwide caliphate.

What irks you so is that Jews can now fight back.

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Greg's's avatar

True,Islam is a anti Christ threat but so is non Jew by blood nearly Zionists also of occultic,Godless beginnings creating a vice grip of colliding anti Christ powers ,both sides under the control partly of elite Rothschilds Satanist and Vatican ,Masons etc who are intentionally bringing the world to destructions from all angles ie end times Luciferisns creating chaos for their master..

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Dan Dagovitz's avatar

And now Jews and Christian are fighting back against the abomination of Islam together!

Sword of God!

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James Roberts's avatar

Thanks for letting us know who you are. Israel may not be perfect, but they've been surrounded by enemies and fighting for their lives for 80 years, and built a tolerant, multi-party democratic state, while their enemies, who are anything but tolerant or democratic, continue to want to destroy them. Interesting who you choose to side with.

I look at the fruits of their labor - what have they done with their state, including rights for non-Jews (hint, equal); what aggressive action have they taken since their founding - and see a nation that does not want to continue to war with it's neighbors. I don't believe they funded Hamas to invite this war; I suspect they wanted to divide Palestinians in the Gaza from those in the West Bank to prolong the adoption of a two state solution. Not something I necessarily agree with, but it's a far cry short of what the Arabs have wanted for Israel for most of the last 80 years. By all means, pressure them to stop building in the West Bank. Is a two state solution viable, with Gaza and the West Bank separated? Unlikely. Maybe the answer is a three state solution. Or maybe, since Arab states didn't exist under the Ottomans, it makes more sense for Gaza and West Bank to be absorbed into Egypt and Jordan? Except, Egypt and Jordan don't want that ... why so? And why would Israel be circumspect about that outcome?

Oh wait, you don't care, because Israel doesn't have any right to exist ...

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Charles Ostertag's avatar

right on. Arab countries do not want Palestinians and it is written in the history books.

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James Roberts's avatar

It bears remembering that "Palestinians" is derived from a two thousand year old Roman regional place name, itself derived from the ancient Philistine people, and as far as I can tell, reintroduced by the British, who must have wanted to differentiate it from Syria (as it was called under the Ottomans). Interestingly they choose not to use the other ancient name, Israel. It was not widely adopted by the Arabs living there until the 1960s. So the concept of a "Palestinian" people is quite new (given they don't lay claim to be the inheritors of the ancient pagan Philistines). Admittedly, given their isolation, they needed a name to identify themselves in the nation-state era (even though those in the West Bank accepted integration into Jordan, and were given Jordanian citizenship).

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Kilometers Davis's avatar

This is historical revisionism write large

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Dan Dagovitz's avatar

Well put Sir!

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B. Volk's avatar

Totally ridiculous. Netanyahu may have his faults, but “wanting” deadly attacks on his own citizens is NOT one of them. No children are being “systematically exterminated” in Gaza, and, as always, the Israeli Defense Forces do everything they can to avoid civilian casualties in the war against Hamas, including issuing evacuation warnings to civilians before military operations and providing safe passage corridors for women and children. Hamas has a long-standing habit of surrounding terrorist enclaves with women and children and not allowing them to leave, putting their own vulnerable civilians at risk.

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Kilometers Davis's avatar

Oh really, Is that so?

So you'd be willing to publish the many, many, many eyewitness accounts of helicopters firing into the kibbutz and the crowd on October 7, as well as the defacto Hannibal directive (which isn't supposed to be SOP anymore, by their own metric by the way) that has gotten more than quite a few hostages killed.

Oh and let's ignore all the sources of the drone footage and seismic sensors and laser accurate security alarms that all just completely disappeared from existence immediately and couldn't be produced for anybody anywhere to review. All those security records and readings from the most secure border on the face of the earth just somehow have not been shown once after it just went blind and dark for 6 hours to hundreds of fighters, cars, motorbikes, goddamn paragliders and apparently common sense.

Lets ignore the numerous intelligence reports directly submitted to IDF command months to days before the attack from within and without Israel.

Is it opsec to put bullets in children's heads?

The old 'break their bones' shit from the 80s is all cool with you guys still?

Oh it's about Islam in totality is it? Remind then since you're quoting word for word Douglas Murray ethnonationalism isolationist bullshit, why you aren't currently doing to the Jordanians and Egyptians what you've done to the Palestinians. And why, if that's your line, shouldn't I look at Israel as simply a European colony in the middle east? You're not a democracy. You're not peaceful. You're not a haven for LGBTQ or religious freedom. You treat foreigners like shit. And there's no Hamas in the west bank buddy, so what are you doing there?

Oh and let's just ignore that Hamas literally offered to release All of them on October 8th.

And that netenyahu wanted to genocide them more than he wanted Israelis safe.

And let's ignore the investigation, an Israeli investigation, that is if anything INCENTIVISED to find results, couldn't produce one piece of evidence of beheaded babies or mass rape.

And let's ignore the silenced survivors from that Kibbutz, who actually wasn't supposed to survive that IDF airstrike. Lets ignore the bodies who's ballistics and autopsies were never disclosed to the families (because we couldn't have Israelis knowing that the IDF were the ones that killed their kids).

Lets even ignore the nova survivors found mysteriously dead AFTER getting home safe who didn't tow the government line.

You clowns have no idea how badly you've screwed this up.

You have single handedly placed every Jewish person on the planet in danger over your race war blood myth, on the massive gamble that they somehow blame defenseless starving Palestinians you're pushing into the Sinai desert like a goat to Azazel, rather than You.

You look in the mirror and call it antisemitic when you see yourself.

You do not know it, but you are stained by this for all time.

One day you'll see what was done in your name and you will despair that you were ever this way. And it will be too late.

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Charles Ostertag's avatar

I'm not sure you are informed, maybe brainwashed. Hamas is responsible for all the deaths in Gaza. They use kids as human shields, which you didn't mention. They built their headquarters under a hospital. As far as aid to Gaza, Hamas steals it and sells it back to the Palestinians. Hamas (Iran) couldn't care less about the death of innocents who get in their way of trying to exterminate Jews worldwide. Followed by the U.S.

You should read the Koran and how Iran uses this as their source to make everyone convert to Islam. That is not a joke, it is real. But apparently, you are not aware of that, or maybe you are aware and trying to gaslight. Go somewhere else, please.

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Surak's avatar

"The State of Israel is an abomination which must be destroyed" says the "Zen pagan agnostic", all in the name of resisting genocide. LOL

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Dan Dagovitz's avatar

ROFLMAO!

Now that was funny!

True, but funny!

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4Freedom's avatar

Shouldn’t you be honest and call yourself “Ohio Jew-hater?” Your ignorance of the history of this conflict is stunning.

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Larez's avatar

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JUDY BISTANY's avatar

I had great respect for you before this. You forget Palestine belongs to Palestinians not Eastern European Jews - not in 1948 - not now. The brutality of the Israeli regime has created Hamas - something you fail to mention. As for your other "facts" I would question their verity. Could it be that you have missed the reports from Gaza and the West Bank? The sniper killing of children, the maiming of them, the amputees that outnumber most wars - the journalists, medical personnel who have been murdered? Who are you? I used to think I knew. Israel was created by terrorism and force - murders, theft of lands, homes, businesses and even a culture. It is Hamas who has come to the table for peace - and Israel who has found a way to reject it each time. Don't you know this? And are you really condoning/excusing the bombing of hospitals, schools, tented shelters where people are burned alive? Who are you now?

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Fred Carpenter's avatar

Thank you. Exactly correct. Hamas is an initial Israel creation & OP. I have now lost respect for her too. In reading Pappe's book (Israeli Jewish historian) on ethnic cleansing at the beginning in '47-48, tells the true story. Yes, who is Sharyl Atkinson? Now apparently just another propagandist pedaling likes for her handlers.

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Charles Ostertag's avatar

Common man! You talk about the bombing of hospitals and ..... Guess what, Hamas uses these locations for headquarters and operations, and they couldn't care less about the people. What would you do if terrorists lived in a city next to you and attacked your city with bombs over and over again, killing kids and adults in your city over and over again? What if they sent some suicide bombers to your city? What if the terrorists had miles and miles of tunnels where they could pop up at any time and kill. How long would you be humanitarian in this situation? What if one of your family was killed and you had to live in fear. Terrorists go for folks like you to support their efforts. I know you are trying to be humanitarian, but you need to think things through before making far-reaching comments without facts.

Do you really believe Hamas has ever come to the peace table with anything workable? You must be smoking something better than I am if you do. They come to the peace table not wanting to change, not wanting to say that Israel has a right to exist. It is no wonder Israel is trying to remove Hamas. Israel has lost its military because of trying to be as humanitarian as possible, but no one reports on it.

One last thing. Hamas inflates the number of deaths to impact folks just like you. Talking about children's deaths in war, let's put it in perspective with another item from Google. "Estimating the exact number of German children who died during World War II is challenging due to varying sources and definitions of "child." However, it is estimated that between 1.5 to 2 million German children perished during the war, primarily due to bombings, starvation, and disease. These tragic losses highlight the devastating impact of the conflict on civilian populations, including the most vulnerable members of society."

That doesn't include the adults!

All IMO of course

War is horrible, no deaths are justifies and it is always the innocents that get hurt in a war, any war.

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JUDY BISTANY's avatar

I hope you will become better informed. Your opinions are not facts and your justifications for these horrors are inhuman - just like the genocide that Israel is carrying out thanks to the promotion of the uninformed. Not name names here but does it ring a bell?

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Charles Ostertag's avatar

Nothing you said is a fact; your emotions are showing. Again, this is the problem we have, where emotions, not logic, prevail. You say inhuman, you are right. This is a war, and war has consequences, and Hamas started this war, and Hamas said they would do the killings again. What would be your solution? It is easy to shoot out comments about the tragedies of war, but that does nothing.

Why are you not standing up and supporting a country that was attacked? What about the women, babies and men killed, with a baby being baked in an oven. Is this not inhumane? Israel attacked after the killing of many innocents and repeated missiles being fired from schools, mosques and hospitals full of women and kids.

Look, no war is right, but throughout history, they have existed and will continue to exist until God decides otherwise. No women or children should be killed, and it is so sad that so many die. The bottom line here is that Hamas and Iran want Israel destroyed, and if Iran ever gets a nuclear bomb, it will be used to exterminate Israel, followed by destroying the U.S. Are you good with that?

It is easy for any of us to criticize without feeling the pain or knowing the history of a situation. I always try not to offend anyone, but some issues are highly volatile and make others irritated. I accept your comment, but disagree as I have posted.

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JUDY BISTANY's avatar

What you say has been refuted as propaganda lies - even by Israel. I hope you will do some true research into this. Israel has been attacking Palestine and Palestinians since 1948. The Hamas "attack" was a response to 10,000 captives in Israeli jails - many of them children, most without any charges or representation. Held with brutality and torture. Please, learn the truth.

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Charles Ostertag's avatar

Oh, so it is ok to kill kids and women because terrorists are in Israeli jails? I don’t understand. Are you saying killing is appropriate to get jailed terrorists out of jail? I don’t agree with that at all. As far as Israel is concerned, they sent a message to the world - attack them and receive a 10X response or something like that. Sort of like Peace through Strength. The purpose being, they don’t want to fight but if they do go to fight it will be with overwhelming force.

I respect your opinion, but in my opinion, you have been somewhat brainwashed along the way. Islam extremists, which include Hamas, openly state that Israel cannot exist! What do you think that means?

One quick point: we are discussing a sect of Islam, and it is the extremists of the religion. The other Arab countries want nothing to do with Iran or the Palestinians, which should tell you something. I want to make sure we don’t bucket all Islamists as the same; they are not. I am only discussing extremists.

Hamas and Iran also state they want the destruction of the West. These are public statements. What do you think about this?

If children are jailed, it is because they were turned into terrorists by Hamas with full military weapons and bombs. They can kill like any other terrorist and are treated as men at a very early age. But now you are concerned about these killers?

You seem to have a humanitarian heart, which is what terrorists seek to persuade with false information. The terrorists purposely play politics because they know if they get so many folks like you, they will win. Hamas feeds off of humanitarians who are more than happy to help. Do you know the number of deaths in Gaza is going down? Yep, because a Hamas organization is no longer providing the gaslighted numbers.

Do you know Hamas would kill you or anyone else in a second if you violated any Islamic laws, especially if you are not a Muslim? It is so funny watching all the American dummy kids in college marching for Hamas with many LGBTQ+++ also involved. The stupidity is that these LGBT folks would be thrown off a building or hanged for their belief in Gaza or Iran. Hamas is only using them for publicity, and if these same folks went to Gaza, they would be killed. How in the hell can our kids not get this? It is beyond me.

Your opinion is appreciated, but I think you need to do a bit of deeper research, and I will do the same. I might do an article with references to explain all I discussed here. All IMO, of course.

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JUDY BISTANY's avatar

I would suggest you learn the truth. Your arguments stem from propanda that the west has been fed for 100 years or more. NAKBA 1948. If you still cling to those beliefs then when a Zionist comes to your door claiming they own your home and land because their ancestors lived there 3000 years ago - and when you do not comply find yourself at the end of a bullet then you can continue to cling to those beliefs. Please, learn the truth - especially of whom and what are to be feared.

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Dan Dagovitz's avatar

Judy, please name one Islamic controlled nation where Jews are treated well... Yet, Muslims in Israel are treated as equals and play a major part of the society.

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JUDY BISTANY's avatar

none of that could be further from the truth - Palestinians suffer under an apartheid state - throughout "Israel" Palestine. If you want the understand the history watch Palestine Before 1948 on You Tube. Or "Israeled" a current film done by Israeli youth.

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Dan Dagovitz's avatar

Once again...

Judy, please name one Islamic controlled nation where Jews are treated well (Or Christians for that matter).

You win't because you can't! Islam is determined to destroy every other religion; it will lead to their destruction... soon!

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Kilometers Davis's avatar

This is so incredibly well debunked at this point that for you to restate it is like someone saying Japanese women's vaginas are actually sideways entirely based on racist WW2 propaganda, in the year 2025.

You lie and lie and lie. Hamas literally offered the hostages back the next day in the condition netenyahu didn't indiscriminately bomb Gaza. And you know what? He did. And when he did, he killed hostagesz and innocents. Believe it or not, there Are innocents in Gaza. You refuse to believe that because you're a racist bloodmyth worshipping fascist who has no allegiance to truth or reality or evidence or even basic principles. You are the empty husk where a human should be. And you did it to yourself.

Fuck you.

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Charles Ostertag's avatar

Thanks for you out of touch, no references reply. Have a good day throwing your lies and hate opinions around. Today there is AI so do your research. Anyone that has to go low against anothers opinion is nobody I want to talk to. There are always two sides to a story. I think you might believe that the Holocaust didn’t happen. See ya, but, cheer up and enjoy your day.

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Grainger's avatar

I’m not sure which to feel about Judy, bewilderment at such blind aversion to documented facts, or just sadness that there are people who actually things like this and believe what they say.

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Dan Dagovitz's avatar

Poisoned Minds...

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Surak's avatar

Jews are the true Palestinians.

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Dan Dagovitz's avatar

The only Palestinians I recognize wore leather armor, carried a Pilum and short sword and Hailed Caesar!

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Greg's's avatar

Palestine was famous for decades as most generous people of middle east,tolerating other non Muslims more then most of middle east..lowest crime rates of all most of last century,most civilized of Muslims only brought to violence and anger by the most extreme and Zionists fit that bill and plundered then in 48 defying a UN escort plan to prevent atrocities (even that may have been fraudulent UN ploy or they secretly greenlighted full attack)..stole propertys not marked by UN , raped,killed thousands,million+ eventually..and now seems another million+disappeared and old stale videos from year or back being deposited online w no dates..tad suspicious..can anyone name any reliable reporters in Gaza or w bank?

I'm a Christian who rightly disdains the Muslim religion and it's Sharia oppressions etc but Zionists aren't opposite their oppressive demonic spirit,just another branch off same or similar tree tied to elitist Rothschild satanists of Babylonian/freemason occultic descent who now control with other Elitists of similar most the world including typically both sides or multi sides of a war equation hence funding the Arab Muslim raid or Europe,uk,Paris,etc now unresisted much talk at all not so surprisingly by Zionists..all sold out demon channelers taking orders from Lucifer to bind world into extreme oppression,demons varr little of politics though they master it..souls are their targeted game and Zionists and Muslims are their 2 most powerfully infiltrated... Exactly why you'll find most freemason lodges in Europe are mostly Zionist or Muslim leaning, decidedly anti Christian despite Christian/Unitarian invited everywhere (comes in handy for church infiltrations once fully indoctrinated)..after I think 20th degree they announce Muslim lean and that Muslim looking attire and hats, emblems is by mo coincidence..by later degrees their initiated to full Muslim Ginn demon worship ie sacrifices and pedo, more seem online from survivors kids who escaped..Naahh, just a weirdo harmless mens club(eastern luciferian star is women's version but they dropped Luciferian years back) who put on rock concerts everywhere with buildings with few windows every town..so we though prior internet..hush,hush bunch who are quite serious about their ouija boards x 1000 or so ie demon packed!-

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Dan Dagovitz's avatar

Actually the Jews predate the Muslims in this entire region; by your rules the Muslims are the occupiers!

The only Palestinians I recognize wore leather armor, carried a Pilum and short sword and Hailed Caesar!

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Greg's's avatar

Zionists of Israel avg 3.5 % Jew DNA (ie fake level), 53% jew DNA palistinians,with one third of west bank above 87% jew DNA is or was largest group of pure Jews left in world!-being Holocausted for real...likely intentionally marked for extermination decades back

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Dan Dagovitz's avatar

Really, what is Jew DNA...

Please cite your information and sources...

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Greg's's avatar

This isn't a hard to find search topic sir and though the range of jew DNA tests for large number of Zionist Israelites run from 1.2 to 7.8 the avg is 3.5 is the consensus seems ..let's say to be safe 9 percent vs 87 percent for a million palistinians or 53 percent total avg.. it's barely a claim to Jewish ethnicity compared to solid Jew groups they claim to want to save yet are mass killing over a land dispute ,a land they attacked in 48 against UN directives of escort planned and signed by Zionists= mass murder of Jews then and now as well as property grab under pretense of saving racial primarily Jews,(not mere religious converts,not forbidden occultic Talmud idolers,)= biggest con job of century..as the realer of the 2 Jewish Holocausts continues,even if they were subjugated by the Muslims..their blood God knows well!

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Dan Dagovitz's avatar

I read some of your posts; you are one "Bat Shit" crazy hombre...

"HYBRIDISM OF GODS BEAUTIFUL CREATURES IS UGLY EVIL..MOST DEMONS DESCRIBED AS HYBRID MONSTERS..DNA,RNA,MRNA OF MULTI CREATURES BINDING TO OUR CELLS & THREATENING OUR NATURAL SPIRITUAL form.dodge MRNA,DNA VACCINES! REPENT OF DELUSIONS EVILS NOT PRESENT IN PHARMAKIA,GOVT."

More of the above craziness on his sub-stack.

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Greg's's avatar

Really now? I'm exactly right,what are you non spiritual atheist in the under 10 percent.?

Try using opposite of my contention,which would be: Demons are always non ugly, non hybrid beautiful and devil and minions never mess with pharmakia drugs as Bible claimed..Now that's a lot crazier still sir,no?! It's just I'm unusually descriptive that's all,not far from what most Christians believe I'm certain.May God lead you to his good blessed truth..(Ie Dodge mRNA vaccine,it's full of evil stuff Senor!).5

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Dan Dagovitz's avatar

You are so full of hate and confused you are beyond discussing this topic with. But it is easy to see that you are NOT from this region and are hate filled with Leftist propaganda.

I feel bad for you...

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Kilometers Davis's avatar

Oh *we're* full of hate?

How do you manage to throat Bibi's cock through all those baby veins, killer?

You are not a Christian. You have no values. Christ would spit in you.

You like it when Palestinian newborns rot in their incubators. You like it when old men are forced to crawl to their own deaths. You like it when prisoners are raped. You like it when a neighbourhood is carpet bombed because someone through a rock in the vague direction and a fucking tank. You like it when the chemical residue of the munitions destroys the lungs and suffocates the breathing of anyone nearby. You like the war crimes, when the zone is flooded with so much shit and lies from your end that you think it gives you carte blanche.

You are far more deserving of death than even the worst possible Palestinian.

You will never be forgiven for this. Your God hates you. You have been led by the nose your entire life to the point where you will cheer for the deaths of unarmed millions and the forceabke removal of a people from their rightful land by an ILLEGAL occupying force armed with nothing but fire and lies.

I wouldn't piss on you if you were in fire.

Fuck you.

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Kilometers Davis's avatar

More bullshit

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Dan Dagovitz's avatar

Thank you for your insightful input!

You are the reason that the Democrats are at a 23% approval rating! As a Republican I am thankful for idiots like you.

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Charles Ostertag's avatar

you are correct, although no one reports the history

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JUDY BISTANY's avatar

Best review your history.

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Dan Dagovitz's avatar

So JUDY you are claiming Islam predates Judaism? Let me know when you return to the real world. And before you start with the insults and MAGA, I am an Aerospace Engineer my minor in history. Post Grad in Data science.

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JUDY BISTANY's avatar

Congratulations.

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Dan Dagovitz's avatar

If you want to learn some truth about about the conflagration in the Middle East read Surak's material. He is much more knowledgeable than I am. If you want to know the "nut and bolts" of the conflict I am fairly well versed. But to gain anything from what we can offer you have to listen with an open mind. I apologize for my sarcasm earlier...

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JUDY BISTANY's avatar

I'd be happy to have a conversation. I am well versed myself having witnessed the conflict since the early 70's when I traveled to the Middle East. I am not familaiar with Surak - or his history. An open mind works two ways - if you are game, I am.

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JUDY BISTANY's avatar

btw thank you for you apology. Have to note my earlier response made no claims - not sure how you read that into my comment.

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Dingo Roberts's avatar

Wow. Just look at the map and which people have been dispossessed and controlled, and whose land is shrinking to nothingness. This blind-sidedness makes for an easy unfollow.

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Surak's avatar

Yes indeed - all non-Muslim non-Arabs in the Middle East have been dispossessed and controlled until Israel began its anti-colonialist project of independence and freedom from sharia.

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Dan Dagovitz's avatar

Bada Bing!

He hits it out of the park!

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Sera's avatar

I won’t quibble about the accuracy of your facts, that’s too easy. The only important fact is that an occupied people have every right, under international law, to rebel. In response to this rebellion, the occupying forces have nearly no rights at all. Seems unfair, doesn’t it?

But that’s the law. And over 150 nations now support recognition of the Palestinians in their own state. More people, and more countries every day are seeing the brutality of the occupation and the genocide. There’s nowhere to hide anymore. That too seems unfair.

In fact, everything seems unfair to people whose understanding of fairness begins and ends with the myth that they are God’s “chosen people”.

From the Orthodox community of Mear Sharim, where I have lived, to the bombed out villages throughout the Middle East, where American bombs dropped by Israelis have killed so many, in massacres beginning in the 1930’s, the world is waking up to the horrors which my parents witnessed first hand. And you’ll think it’s unfair that nobody likes you. Not “nobody likes Jews”, but that nobody likes thieves and murderers. And, it may seem unfair, but you can’t keep blaming others for crimes you commit. The world is done with you. The whole world is watching.

One day, Jews, Christians, and Muslims, will live together in peace, on their own land, as they did for many centuries before the invasion of the Europeans, (who aren’t even genetically Semitic, who call themselves “Zionists”), have moved on. And they will have all eternity to complain about how unfair it is.

“Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the Freedom Party" (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties.”-Albert Einstein, 1947

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Usamnesia's avatar

"American bombs dropped by Israelis have killed so many, in massacres beginning in the 1930’s, the world is waking up to the horrors which my parents witnessed first hand. And you’ll think it’s unfair that nobody likes you. Not “nobody likes Jews”, but that nobody likes thieves and murderers. And, it may seem unfair, but you can’t keep blaming others for crimes you commit. The world is done with you. The whole world is watching."

The perpetual get-out-of-jail free card issued to the victim emeritus tribe ...guaranteed for any atrocity.

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Surak's avatar

You won't quibble about the accuracy of her facts because she is correct. No people have a right to murder over 1200 civilians at a pro-peace festival, to kidnap over 200, to rape, torture, mutilate, imprison them, to slice off breasts, to cut babies out of wombs, and so on.

There has never been a Palestinian nation. Jews are the true Palestinians. Jews are from Judea (renamed Palestine by the Roman Empire). Arabs are from Arabia.

Jews are genetically Semitic. What you said is simply Nazi lies.

The world is done with jihad and its supporters.

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Kilometers Davis's avatar

Palestinians are semitic. More so than any ashkenazim on earth. You guys are so incredibly desperate

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Dan Dagovitz's avatar

Told as an educated man! Sera you will just have to Sig Heil to someone else...

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Greg's's avatar

But the Jews of Noah's descendants were Gods chosen people to at least extents of him attempting to assist them over evil obstacles that threatened them body and soul..like Adam and Eve the attempt seemed to be to raise to angelic status a new humanoid creature,(s) to replace perhaps fallen angels is indications unsure but specific numbers have power ie God seems uninterested in endless mass productions ie holy numerology strongly suggested..and fallen angel issue very relevant to timings and goings on then.coincidence?:I'd think not likely..

Alas,after many hits and misses it seems God after taking few to few thousand Jews to heaven kinda indicated the rest of the flock was not worthy more then rest of mankind ie 'gentiles "( of nephilim giants bred down in size or lost tribe of Noah descendants is debate seems as to gentiles background?!).

So God spread them out and confused their languages somehow...indications were all jew extra blessings were rescinded= to gentiles in soul value,period!!

Zionists ignored that section and claimed up older Jewish rights to blessings and land as non blood religious zealots hijacking for power ancient Israel,jewdom, worse applying Babylonian cursed by God anti old testament , witchcraft tinged Talmud while largely pretending Torah respects or going mere political, cultural parasite advantage: hence usury refined to take over world art!

In summary Zionists have been allowed to raise up and take a power position of evil as it righteously fills the vacuum of the true Jews failures to serve God..this is justice means continuous I'm Bible (or not and it's just a ploy of Satan regardless,not sure).

So who's more cursed Zionist non Jews or Palististinian Muslim s who worship a false idol enemy of Old testament God? Hard to say in heaven,hell end but right now looks real harsh for palistinian fairly pure bloodlined Jews ! Id advise them to look to their heart and the history of that blood type flowing in their veins and tune into blessed truth Christ did fulfill prophecy and his salvation mission as Most High Gods #1 Son creation who retains enough value to cover our nasty sin bill!( If you'll just repent and ask humbly to serve God,not evil!).

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Richard's avatar

Isn't it funny how since September 11, 2001 and probably before, we have heard all about Islamist Extremists, but never a word about Zionist Extremists? I know we're gullible and our perceptions severely manipulated, but really....

We are what they want us to be.

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Charles Ostertag's avatar

because Islamist Extremists kill in horrible fashion, children or adults. It's in the news all the time. What has been in the news about Zionist Extremist? Or are you calling them extremists because they have the opposite thoughts from Islam?

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Richard's avatar

I’m calling them extremists because that’s the term the propagandists use. I’m calling them extremists because that’s the term used by Sharyl today and because that is paraphrasing what Einstein called them in the letter he, Hannah Arendt and other well known Jews called them in their letter to NYT in 1948. In my view, what the IDF did last month in luring 15 medics and their ambulances to an ambush is very extreme, a violation of Geneva Conventions, and genocide. Einstein et al were right in their letter to NYT to 1948, you can find it online, and my bet is that neither Sharyl nor you are aware the letter exists.

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Greg's's avatar

Both kill cruelly, Zionists started fight with invasion pretending they were blood right Jews when they weren't and are rejected by Orthodox Jews and by secular largely as well cuz Talmud of Zionists is demonic scary and Zionists very pushy with real Jews..

Largely real blooded Jews of Palestine ie DNA 67 percentage jew vs 3 percentage Zionists have righteousness to defend and kill, Zionist position as unrighteous attackers are not killing but murdering since 48 period.

My take is both are cursed by God for demonic leaning anti Christian leanings but Palestinians are a kinder ,better hearted people with the blood of Christ partially in their veins..I favor them easily in this, Zionists are and were horrid thieves against the kindest Jews of the middle east now bit lost in Muslim invasions of their previous Orthodox Jew religions

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Charles Ostertag's avatar

You say Palestinians are kinder, better ... I don't know what world you live in or where you get your information, but do you realize that Palestinians train kids to carry guns and behead people as part of initiation? The texts kids use are all based on anti-semitism and the killing of Jews. i.e., if you have 10 jews and kill six, how many are left? This population is brainwashed with hate over everything, with the destruction of Israel and the U.S. as goals one and two.

I am sure the Palestinians are good people, but they follow and support terrorists from birth. If that doesn't change, there will be no peace. If they had freedom, they would surely see things differently. If women could go to school, a real school, things would change. However, most men are not literate, except in the Koran, which they can quote from beginning to end.

I hope you realize that during the creation of Israel, all the Arab countries around wanted nothing to do with the Palestinians, known for extremism, which they did not wish to see in their country. Actually, even today Egypt and other surrounding countries don't want the Palestinians starting crap in their country. Do you see any Arab countries standing up for Palestine? Iran, which is the root of all this, is hated by the rest of the Muslim world, that are on a new path of trying to live with others. Iran not so much.

Bottom line is we need to stop the killing and that includes Russian/Ukraine. This is crazy no matter anyone's opinion. All IMO.

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Surak's avatar

Poor dear

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Brian Hall's avatar

It didn’t have to be but it is. Israel has become a pariah and a death culture being built on the rotted corpses of hundreds of thousands of civilians since its re-inception. Visiting Israel was once on our families bucket list. What they’ve done to tens of thousands of children in the last year and a half of ethnic cleansing is an abomination. Based on that alone, we wouldn’t visit that country if they paid for our vacation.

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Surak's avatar

Because only Jews have no right to defend themselves. Right.

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Trevor Kuether's avatar

I think people stopped believing they were "defending" themselves when they started and were proven to shoot unarmed civilians (on camera), blow up buildings with families and kids inside (no sane society tolerates that level of justice even when trying to apprehend a criminal), and target medical personnel and journalists (again verifiable).

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Dan Dagovitz's avatar

This is just BS; from people that bury their ammunition dumps under their schools and hospitals. They murder indiscriminately; the only good Hamas member is a dead Hamas member. I personally have put a few Muslim extremists in their graves and I am glad of it!

Sword of God!

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Trevor Kuether's avatar

Video footage is BS?

Sorry, you must be incredibly indoctrinated. Starship Troopers was a satire, not reality (ref. "The only good bug, is a dead bug").

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Dan Dagovitz's avatar

By the way I don't watch garbage movies like you; I read, you should try it!

The original quote was derived from Theodore Roosevelt in 1916.

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Trevor Kuether's avatar

Yes, I have watched the movie and read the book. I can consume both types of media, a novel concept to your small brain, I realize now.

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Dan Dagovitz's avatar

Really, Provide the link clown. My experience comes from 26 years of military experience as many people here know.

Move along Red Diaper Baby....

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Trevor Kuether's avatar

Go fight for Israel then, you are a traitor to freedom and everything the US stands for in our founding documents.

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Greg's's avatar

Always too many fairly pure evil spirits of Zionist groups binded to traitors mankind,some will repent though as they descent further and see their partners in crime gross faces upfront,unhidden..be ready with forgiveness for them...as you hide your worst sins as well dependant on forgiveness more then the air you breath..it's about hating pure evil and unrepentant gang.. were all guilty!it's the only ticket out,rest of virtues will surely form if you can just forgive!

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Robert Auld's avatar

Context missing from this article:

Why did Hamas attack Israel on October 7th? For that matter, why do they want to attack Israelis at all? You say in your article:

"Hamas claimed the attack was a response to Israeli policies, such as alleged encroachments on the al-Aqsa Mosque, but no specific military action preceded the assault, and the targeting of civilians undermines claims of legitimate resistance."

For over a decade now, Gaza has essentially been an open-air prison, administered by Israel. The land borders have walls, barbed wire and machine gun towers, the airport is closed, and if you try and take a boat out to sea, even just to catch fish, if you go too far, Israeli patrol boats will shoot at you. Nothing gets in or out without Israel's permission. Further, the jailers, every now and then, "mow the lawn"--that is they use aerial bombs, artillery and armed incursions to kill Gazans they have accused of terrorism, along with many others.

Israel essentially occupies Gaza, due to their control of the borders and airspace. An occupied people may resist their occupier--this is recognized international law. Further, Israel holds thousands of Palestinians as prisoners, often without trial, and many are minors. A major purpose of Hamas October 7th attack was to take Israeli hostages who could then be exchanged for Palestinian hostages.

It is not right to say that the October 7th attack was unprovoked--the continued occupation of Gaza by Israel, making it a prison for the Palestinians, was certainly provocation enough. Further, Israel's response to October 7th is out of all proportion. Israel has attempted to make Gaza unlivable, cutting off food, water and electricity to the entire population, destroying about 90 percent of the housing stock, destroying essential infrastructure such as hospitals, schools, mosques, and killing tens of thousands of people who are obviously civilians--children, women, elderly, medical workers, etc. This is collective punishment of a population of over 2 million people. It is a war crime of immense proportions.

It is clear that the population of Gaza will never turn in Hamas to the Israelis. Hamas is the only organization that has fought for them against their occupiers. It is clear that the only way Israel can "win" is to murder and expel the general population. And it is especially clear that Israel can perpetrate such an immense crime only because they are supported by the United States, who continues to replenish the thousand-pound bombs that Israel is dropping on tent cities in Gaza. This must stop. The U.S. could stop it by removing military and economic support to Israel. This just demand is why you see protests across the U.S. and abroad supporting the Palestinians.

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Usamnesia's avatar

Well, this is quite disappointing in that I have respected gratefully Sharyl's work over the years......especially during the recent times of the "plague". So, this was a shock to the system. I'm sure Norman Finkelstein would have quite a field day rebutting all of these quotes? First of all, there is no context provided as to why these statements were said which is likely because they were in response to Israeli actions and provocations (not quotes, but attacks). Secondly, as typical in these types of statements, there is no historical context provided on the decades long occupation and containment of Gaza. BEFORE, any discussion can develop it has to be accepted that ZIONISM and Judaism are two different entities.

“God appointed America to save the world in any way that suits America. God appointed Israel to be the nexus of America’s Middle Eastern policy and anyone who wants to mess with that idea is a) anti-Semitic, b) anti-American, c) with the enemy, and d) a terrorist.”

John LeCarré

“An anti-Israel bias is not the same as anti-Semitism. To argue as much is to claim an altogether unique immunity for Israel, untouchable by the kind of criticism that is normally directed at the conduct of states."

Zbigniew Brzezinski, National Security Adviser under Jimmy Carter:

"Let it be clearly understood that never in Jewish history (even in the time of Jeroboam or Achav) have such hostile atheists stood at the helm of he Jewish people as today"

Rabbi Michael Dov Weissmandl zt”l, founder of Nitra Yeshiva and author of Min Hametzar

Anyway, this article really questions the legitimacy of the author. This issue has provided a useful litmus test to identify credible, objective sources and journalism. A thought now comes to the paranoid mind...why has she been allowed to both complete such credible journalism in other important areas and present it weekly on a mainstream network? Some would surmise perhaps that once again we have a honeypot. (Psyop 101)

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Robert Auld's avatar

Sometimes, people who have good intentions and do good work can have a weakness or blind spot. I suspect that is what we are seeing here. I would not go so far as saying Sharyl is a "honeypot" without actual proof. There could be a number of reasons why she chooses to repeat the arguments of the Zionists and their state when it comes to Gaza.

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Usamnesia's avatar

Point well made. It's just a bit surprising sometimes that the cogdis can be so selective.

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Dan Dagovitz's avatar

Actually, this article shows her honesty and courage!

Bravo!

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Usamnesia's avatar

Yes courageous to tote party lines within a tribe owned platform. How about you

Put your shoes on and chase a food truck while IDF has the

Leisure to shoot you down

Like a dog. This shit gets old.

https://open.substack.com/pub/the307/p/uk-court-rules-raid-on-pro-palestine?r=53udo&utm_medium=ios

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Surak's avatar

If it's an open-air prison, then the residents should love to escape!

By the way, Jews are the true Palestinians.

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Kilometers Davis's avatar

So haha genocide?

Haha lies?

You can't just will something to be true you realize.

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Dan Dagovitz's avatar

Amen...

And soon, hopefully, they will be the only ones in Gaza!

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rolling rob's avatar

Lady, you need a history lesson

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Surak's avatar

She just provided you one. Too bad you are thick.

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Kilometers Davis's avatar

Astro

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Dan Dagovitz's avatar

Not thick, they are just...

Sheep!

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Kilometers Davis's avatar

And turf

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Freedom Sister's avatar

While all true, where was the IDF for 8 hours on 10/7???? it was a set up!!! Israel sacrificed their own people!! divide and conquer!

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Dan Dagovitz's avatar

You are one "Bat shit" crazy Senorita!

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Freedom Sister's avatar

It’s a fact they didn’t show up for 8 hours.

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Dan Dagovitz's avatar

In truth there was organized resistance within minutes but they were over whelmed. Don't tell me, I had a friend there that just missed dying due to the timing. I'm so sick of the Red Diaper Babies and Muzzie lies. I have long lost ANY sympathy I might have held for them...

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Kilometers Davis's avatar

Muzzie lies huh?

Tell us what you really think you fucking racist

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Freedom Sister's avatar

divide and conquer.

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Steve Stark's avatar

Unbelievable.

There's simply no excuse nor justification for the slaughter and continual acts of inhumanity, with the obvious intention of extermination, we've all witnessed. None.

Have you no perspective? Israelis have uttered these sentiments and worse, for decades, while confining their targets and, for their own reasons, Israel has been the one supporting Hamas.

And those statements you've cited, with no context (historical or otherwise) and what a context! Simply stunned at the ignorance of this post.

"Israel has become a state that aspires to the killing and destruction of Arabs solely for the sake of killing and destroying Arabs.", Haaretz

'When You Leave Israel and Enter Gaza, You Are God': Inside the Minds of IDF Soldiers Who Commit War Crimes

"I have no problem with women. One threw a slipper at me, so I gave her a kick here (pointing to the groin), broke all this here. She can't have children today."

"X shot an Arab four times in the back and got away with a self-defense claim. Four bullets in the back from a distance of ten meters ... cold-blooded murder. We did things like that every day."

"An Arab just walked down the street, about 25 years old, didn't throw a stone, nothing. Bang, a bullet in the stomach. Shot him in the stomach, and he was dying on the sidewalk, and we drove away indifferently."

https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2024-12-23/ty-article-opinion/.premium/when-you-enter-gaza-you-are-god-inside-the-minds-of-idf-soldiers-who-commit-war-crimes/00000193-f2a4-dc18-a3db-fee62b540000

"A Massive Database of Evidence, Compiled by a Historian, Documents Israel's War Crimes in Gaza"

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-12-05/ty-article-magazine/.highlight/massive-database-of-evidence-compiled-by-a-historian-details-israels-war-crimes-in-gaza/00000193-979b-d408-a7d3-bfdbf1410000

No Civilians. Everyone's a Terrorist': IDF Soldiers Expose Arbitrary Killings and Rampant Lawlessness in Gaza's Netzarim Corridor

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-12-18/ty-article-magazine/.premium/idf-soldiers-expose-arbitrary-killings-and-rampant-lawlessness-in-gazas-netzarim-corridor/00000193-da7f-de86-a9f3-fefff2e50000

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Surak's avatar

Hundreds of millions murdered by jihad, languages and religions destroyed, and you are peeing your pants because one tiny group, the Jews, has the audacity to fight back?

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Kilometers Davis's avatar

You are turning starving people into a shibboleth for your own fascist bloodmyth revisionist clash of civilization nonsense. You have nothing, and we both know it, and no amount of publicly making as ass of yourself will undo that fact.

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Kristina Renee's avatar

Sharyl, I am 3/4 of the way through your excellent book Follow The Science (which I purchased after watching you on Jimmy Dore). I wish you would bring your expertise to studying the atrocities that have been committed against the Palestinians for decades by Zionists...

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Surak's avatar

Jews are the true Palestinians.

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Kilometers Davis's avatar

That's an easily disproved lie

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Denyce Din's avatar

A present day genocide against Jews? 35 Israeli children and at least 16,833 Palestinian children have been killed from October 7, 2023 to the present. An excellent website with well documented information and data is https://ifamericansknew.org/stat/children.html

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William Sanchez's avatar

Israel was found guilty of apartheid by Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, B'tselem, and the United Nations all before October 7th.

On October 7th the IDF enacted the Hannibal Directive and has since prevented investigations into how many civilians were victims of friendly fire.

Claims of systemic sexual violence that day have been debunked.

Hamas claimed to enact their right to self defense against Israel's apartheid occupation by attacking IDF military bases and claims most civilians were friendly fire casualties.

Israel has since been found guilty of genocidal war crimes by the International Criminal Court, many UN special experts & committees, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and many more human rights groups.

Netanyahu is a wanted war criminal specifically for his use of starvation as a weapon of war against civilians.

I hope one day all those facts enter mainstream Israeli media.

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Surak's avatar

Apartheid exists everywhere in the Middle East outside Israel. Arabic destroyed native languages, Islam destroyed native religions. Gaza must be Judenrein for peace - classic apartheid.

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Kilometers Davis's avatar

That is a lie when you are using the logic of mein kampf and bloodmyth. You don't even try to hide the yoke of the fascist still hanging off you. And in this you betray yourself.

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Bertil Nilsson's avatar

Speaking of "context", it is the zionists who stole Palestine from the Palestinians and drove them from their ancestral land (ethnic cleansing) forcing them to live in History's biggest and longest lasting concentration camp.

A concentration camp they are flattening with bombs as we speak and with the openly stated goal of "the final solution", making Adolph smile in his grave.

I' m utterly disappointed in you, Sharyl Atkinson.

Disappointed and confused.

Have you been threatened by the Zionists, or what?

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Surak's avatar

Perfect case of projection. Jihad is genocide, per Qur'an 9:5 and 9:29. You can't stand it when one set of victims defends itself. Jews are from Judea, renamed Palestine by the Roman Empire, so Jews are the true Palestinians.

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Kilometers Davis's avatar

Jihad is not genocide. Israelis aren't the Jews, the Jews aren't the zionists, and the zionists are not the israelites. And even if they were none of this would be justified. None of it is. You want bloodmyth but you know it's as valid as the Aryan one. So not at all.

You've got nothing. And it's very very sad for you.

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Ben Terrill's avatar

Thank you once again, Sharyl, for pointing out the facts that the powers don’t want us to look at. The only item I might add, but it would not be immediately relevant in an article about Jews, is that Islamic doctrine of world conquest that includes Europe, the US and the greater West.

An excellent source on this is the ebook published in 2010 from which I past the copyright page, here:

Copyright © 2010 The Center for Security Policy

All rights reserved. Shariah: The Threat to America

(An Exercise in Competitive Analysis—Report of Team ‘B’ II)

is published in the United States by the Center for Security Policy Press,

a division of the Center for Security Policy.

THE CENTER FOR SECURITY POLICY

1901 Pennsylvania Avenue, Suite 201􀀂

Washington, DC 20006

Phone: (202) 835-9077

Email: info@securefreedom.org

For more information, please see securefreedom.org

ISBN 978-0-9822947-6-5

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